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Monday, May 26, 2008

Jerry Collins' shock retirement from New Zealand rugby

Former All Blacks captain Jerry Collins has ended his career in New Zealand.

The 27-year-old Wellington Hurricanes loose forward said he would take an indefinite break from the game before considering his future.

"It's something I've thought about for a while. I've played 10 years for one province and it's hard to leave but it's probably the right time," he said.

Collins, who will play for the Barbarians against England on Sunday, may consider an overseas contract.

But he added: "I'm not in any rush to get out the country."

Out of respect to New Zealand Rugby and the Hurricanes, he hasn't been involved in any contractual discussions as yet.

"You can't negotiate while you're still contracted so at the moment the cupboard is pretty bare but I'm sure there's someone out there who will give me a job for a couple of weeks."

Collins is the 11th player to quit the All Blacks following last year's failed World Cup campaign in France.

Chris Jack, Carl Hayman, Anton Oliver, Byron Kelleher, Aaron Mauger, Luke McAlister and Doug Howlett are all now plying their trade in Europe. Nick Evans and Reuben Thorne have signed contracts to play overseas while Keith Robinson retired through injury.

Note: Thanks to the BBC, All Blacks.com, and rugger1222.
Time: 03:57




  • thats a real blow to the all blacks loosing him.
    someone told me that carter is also going to leave nz for a french team. anyone know anything else about that?

    By Anonymous no 9, at May 26, 2008 3:18 pm  

  • Hmm interesting, there has been alot of gossip in the papers linking Collins with Munster I wonder will we have 4 Kiwis in the Munster team ??

    By Anonymous Cathal, at May 26, 2008 3:21 pm  

  • i am shocked, i play back row for my local club and love watching the all blacks back row and to lose jerry collins is a hugh blow for the all blacks and rugby as a whole. really disapointing

    By Anonymous Thomas, at May 26, 2008 3:24 pm  

  • there was talk that carter was going to Toloun no9

    and it would be awesome for him to play at munster

    By Anonymous flyingoutside, at May 26, 2008 3:59 pm  

  • IMO, NX provincial teams are loosing competivity, im not sure if super14 is better then Heineken cup at the time.

    By Anonymous Coton, at May 26, 2008 4:33 pm  

  • what a shame for the nzru to loose such a gifted player

    talking about carter ,he should be going to toulon after the november tests as Boudjellal(toulon president) said and because toulon are now sure to play in the french top14

    By Anonymous scot, at May 26, 2008 4:38 pm  

  • what a shame for the nzru to loose such a gifted player

    talking about carter ,he should be going to toulon after the november tests as Boudjellal(toulon president) said and because toulon are now sure to play in the french top14

    By Anonymous scot, at May 26, 2008 4:38 pm  

  • Para a malta portuguesa, ultima hora: COLLINS NO GRUPO DESPORTIVO DE DIREITO. For english people; Collins signed for GDD(Portugal).

    By Anonymous Anonymous, at May 26, 2008 4:42 pm  

  • Big loss for Nz but he's only 27 so who knows ... he could always come back.
    As for Boudjellal, the guy talks a lot as he announced Umaga before the guy even signed anything... So we'll see what's up with Carter as one thing is already for sure : Toulon is back in the TOP 14.

    By Blogger jay, at May 26, 2008 5:18 pm  

  • what's the deal when these guys "retire" from NZ rugby, but go play overseas? they can't play for or be selcted by the all blacks anymore? can they play for the country they're now playing in? is it a contractual thing? kelleher, howlett, mcalister, these guys can't be all blacks anymore?

    By Anonymous mike, at May 26, 2008 5:48 pm  

  • that's right mike... not sure about about SA, but in Aus and NZ no players based offshore are allowed to play for the national teams

    By Anonymous Anonymous, at May 26, 2008 6:10 pm  

  • anonymous, so what in the world is NZ planning on doing? i know they have a seemingly endless talent pool, but they gotta be able to keep some of their own players at home. money's a big issue, of course, and some of the teams in NZ are financially strapped, but NZ rugby better figure out what they're doing. perhaps they're a little spoiled when guys like mcalister and mauger leave and they can simply plug in the next generation of tuitavake and brett in their place.

    By Anonymous mike, at May 26, 2008 6:52 pm  

  • Wait ... it used to be a rule but simply cause there wasn't that many southern atmosphere players going to Europe before (Percy was somewhat considered weird as he was still young back in the days) but now that we're going through a globalisation in rugby, don't you think that those rules WILL have to change ?
    I presently have in mind Smit from SA who is gonna be playing with his team and coming back for Montferrand for the semi I believe... doesn't that show a change ?

    By Blogger jay, at May 26, 2008 7:09 pm  

  • jay, if the rule did change, if it said that players playing overseas were still eligible to be selected for international matches, the world cup, etc, that would be great for the "minnows" - fiji comes to mind. send your guys overseas, get some top level European, NZ or AUS experience, then bring that back to your country. if not, would these guys ever play for their country again, simply because they played overseas because somebody offered them a job?

    By Anonymous mike, at May 26, 2008 7:18 pm  

  • SA used to have the ban but they only lifted it last week.

    The ban is a shame but it is a lot of travelling for players as well

    By Anonymous flyingoutside, at May 26, 2008 7:49 pm  

  • That's exactly why I think those coming years are going to be interesting.
    Carter coming to Europe ?
    Could NZ play w/out such a gifted player ?
    In other words, the global market might influence heavily some of those rules

    By Blogger jay, at May 26, 2008 7:58 pm  

  • jay, it's gonna have to change or everybody's gonna be playing in europe. it was one thing for spencer to go to europe before this mass exodus, but for carter to leave, as well? not to play for the all blacks again? what's next, mccaw's gonna leave? muliaina? rokocoko to fiji (one can dream)? these guys are in top shape, in their prime.

    By Anonymous mike, at May 26, 2008 8:35 pm  

  • sweet the AB's are going to be raped by england

    By Anonymous Andrew Sheridan, at May 26, 2008 10:58 pm  

  • sry Andrew but without Cipriani whos gonna threaten the All blacks i mean with Danny the team looked damn good but there isnt anyone else in the squad that threatening running and with the boot...

    By Anonymous Anonymous, at May 26, 2008 11:26 pm  

  • i havnt watched any super 14 this season but do newzealand have the players to replace all these lads leavin?

    By Anonymous Anonymous, at May 26, 2008 11:52 pm  

  • the super 14 has unbelievable talent, but i'm not sure if it's refined or experienced enough to completely dominate the way the all blacks have. tuitavakae and brett have just been named at midfield to go along with rokocoko, muliaina and sivivatu so it's still a formidable backline. not sure about the forwards. if nothing else, this exodus, which incidentally came after a disappointing world cup, may provide opponents with the mental edge they need to beat the AB's.

    By Anonymous mike, at May 27, 2008 2:22 am  

  • this is insane man...im lost for words...my favourite flanker of all time...

    By Blogger qk, at May 27, 2008 3:04 am  

  • While I'm certainly going to miss the Destroyer, if he wants to take a break then let him. Jerry's a young fella and will certainly be back. I'm sure he took losing the World Cup hard and just wants some time off.

    One of the fiercest competitors on the field and a gentleman off, I can't wait for the next chapter in his story. Hopefully he'll go and terrorize the North for a bit before coming home and getting another Black jersey

    By Blogger Ryan, at May 27, 2008 4:05 am  

  • I'll shed a tear for you jerry! Great player...at one time, "the most feared rugby player on the planet" - knocking people unconcious with legal hits! I'm sure jerry just needs a few months holidays! and will be back to his best next year! playing probably for Toulon! with his mate Tana as the coach...not an outside chance...

    As for players! I agree, I'm from NZ and we are losing a lot of talent! and Mr Henry's 'rotation' policy has robbed the black jersey of mana, (pride) and combinations! you need the same guys playing every week, its a team game! and having the same blokes is really important! I think the All Blacks are going to be vulnerable to defeats this year, with so much talent overseas!

    And i disagree with one rule for dan carter, (he can come back into the all blacks!) and another rule for everyone else, its a disgrace, it sends a message that 1 man is better than the team...

    All Blacks need to bring the team culture back... current coach sucks! I wish we'd gone with Robbie Deans!

    Watch Aussie beat us now, with the S14 most successful coach EVER!

    Have a great time Jerry! Wellington Loves Ya!

    By Blogger G-unit, at May 27, 2008 4:16 am  

  • Collins and munster are only rumours at the moment like he said he cannot negotiate while contracted, to be honest saw it coming their was articles recently saying that he wanted to leave after his contract expieres..

    as for carter not sure yet, the idea was to let carter head to france for a year and come home to build towards the next world cup, the original idea was that evans would be given a full season for the all blacks considering that when carter went off against france that there was no-one used to filling the all blacks 10 due to carters dominace basically they didnt have another option since evans had played mostly at full back but now evans is off to england, interesting to see what happens.

    Carter is linked to Saracens, Toulouse or more then likely Toulon on the condition that they are promoted which seems a safe bet.

    South Africa removed over-seas ban for Montgomery and Smith and one or two others, Im not 100% sure but the mentality of the NZ players leaving you be a motive to lift their over-seas ban...just a guess!?

    By Anonymous Patron, at May 27, 2008 12:00 pm  

  • +100 pts for him and rugby in my book. what other sport would you hear a going away speech like that these days

    By Blogger Kolya, at May 27, 2008 7:55 pm  

  • Henry's comments are bewildering ... 'he wouldn't have made the team anyway' ... whatever ... possibly trying to flick his lack-luster coaching performance at the WC onto the players ... And not choosing Nick Evans ? Wah ?

    By Blogger boomshanka, at May 28, 2008 2:02 am  

  • great player, shame he's leaving

    By Anonymous Anonymous, at May 29, 2008 9:59 am  

  • its like a rule the all blacks have if you go overseas you cant play its not the same in sa because matfield and smit both play overseas

    By Anonymous Anonymous, at July 25, 2008 1:41 pm  

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