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Monday, June 20, 2011

Andrew Hore asks if they're actually allowed to tackle Dan Carter

Andrew Hore and Ma’a Nonu bid farewell to Wellington this past weekend as they played their final matches for the Hurricanes, ending off with a moment that will no doubt be remembered as one of the more amusing of the season.

Nonu and Hore were told recently that their services are no longer wanted in Wellington. They join a list of long serving players who finished up on the weekend, including front rowers John Schwalger and Neemia Tialata. Piri Weepu is also uncertain about his future.

While over 17 000 attended the game against the Crusaders at Westpac Stadium, there was no big farewell ceremony, no speeches, not even a mention of it. Instead the players quietly said their goodbyes to the crowd, and ended Hurricanes careers that have spanned years, and over 100 caps each.

It wasn’t a happy send-off result wise, as the Crusaders won the tight contest 16-9, but early in the game Nonu imposed himself, taking out All Black golden boy Dan Carter with a big hit. It was called up for being a late tackle, which was probably harsh, as no arms were the real problem there.

Referee Chris Pollock received a report from the touchline, then acted on it as he penalised the center. "Is there a new rule that you can't tackle Dan Carter?" enquired Andrew Hore cheekily, hinting at how valuable and important a player he is in New Zealand.

The hooker later joked that touchjudge Shane McDermott used to play in his club team and his brother used to keep him out, so he thought maybe he was trying to get one back. Hore also seemed to be having a bit of a laugh with the opposing front row.

"I took 70 minutes to get a smile out of Owen Franks and Ben Franks out there, but I finally got one, so I was pleased."

Nonu and Hore will both be a part of the World Cup, but after that are unsure where they’re heading. Hore has said he’d like to stay in New Zealand, but has had interest from Agen in France, while there has been talk of Nonu being linked to Ospreys in Wales, and the Sharks in South Africa.

"Up until three weeks rugby was always a game for me but over the last couple of weeks I've come to realise that it's a job and that's the way decisions are made.

"That's probably the pleasing thing about getting back to the farm, the sheep don't care what you look like and you can just chase them around," said farmer Hore.

Time: 01:42



  • First - Yes.

    I love Andrew Hore and Ma'a Nonu - big loss for the Hurricanes, big gain for someone else.

    By Anonymous Roadpig, at June 20, 2011 1:08 pm  

  • Ah, but I checked the rule book and there's something Mr Hore should see >>> http://twitpic.com/5d62v2

    By Blogger JL Pagano, at June 20, 2011 1:18 pm  

  • Fair play for Nanu.... and Hore hit it right on the head.
    Nothing wrong with the tackle, and putting the effort in for as many season as he has, Hore has the experience to know that Super Rugby is not what it used to be.

    Changed for the worse in not only my opinion.

    By the way.... spoken from an american, so you can put the biased pride arguments to rest.

    By Blogger Project_Tyranny, at June 20, 2011 1:18 pm  

  • This is getting silly now.

    Nothing wrong with ruffing up your opposite man like this, the game's turning into a pussy's sport

    By Anonymous Anonymous, at June 20, 2011 1:19 pm  

  • What I found most funny about this was that it was actually Ryan Crotty who got tackled and not Dan Carter.

    By Anonymous Anonymous, at June 20, 2011 1:19 pm  

  • haha nonu's voice was a bit of a surprise to me

    By Anonymous Anonymous, at June 20, 2011 1:20 pm  

  • Nonu is one of the best centres in the world and Wellington don't want him? What's going on???

    By Anonymous Anonymous, at June 20, 2011 1:23 pm  

  • @anonymous at 1:19 pm,
    you're wrong, it definitely IS dan carter getting tackled

    By Anonymous Luxi, at June 20, 2011 1:40 pm  

  • It's definitely Carter. Same movements, same boots. Had me thinking for a bit though

    By Anonymous Anonymous, at June 20, 2011 1:40 pm  

  • great banter by andrew hore, maa nonu and the ref ;)

    By Anonymous Luxi, at June 20, 2011 1:41 pm  

  • definitely dan carter, not sure what your on about anon. I guess you had a crack at being clever and failed like a chump?

    By Anonymous Anonymous, at June 20, 2011 1:47 pm  

  • I'm a professional inside centre in New Zealand and it's just a mutual agreement not to tackle DC.
    Would have done the same if i was Nonu though... ;)

    By Anonymous Anonymous, at June 20, 2011 2:10 pm  

  • Hold on muppets

    It was not a tackle he shoulder charged Carter , forget this crap about not being allowed to rough up players and turning rugby into a pussy sport

    The laws governing the tackle are there for a reason , primarily to protect players both the tackler and the tackled player

    Nonu had time to tackle Carter properly , it was a cheap shot

    Get a grip of yourselves all those moaning about making the game of rugby soft, you can put in a fair hard agressive tackle all within the laws of the game

    By Anonymous Anonymous, at June 20, 2011 2:24 pm  

  • does Ma'a Nonu have a genuinely high voice or is he putting that on?

    By Anonymous Nick, at June 20, 2011 3:01 pm  

  • ^ This.

    Textbook Nonu shoulder charge, merited a penalty. The refs may have given the wrong reason, it still turned out to be the right call.

    By Anonymous H, at June 20, 2011 3:01 pm  

  • Ha ha, I must admit a lot of the Aussie teams have been asking that same question, along with "Is it true we're actually allowed to tackle Richie McCaw?!"

    By Anonymous Matty, at June 20, 2011 3:13 pm  

  • Soft penalty.
    Nonu and Hore deserve much better from the Canes. Crazy that they are being pushed out the door.

    By Anonymous Anonymous, at June 20, 2011 3:14 pm  

  • project tyranny, where are you getting that from?
    When did Hore say Super Rugby is not what it used to be? What does that even mean?

    By Anonymous Anonymous, at June 20, 2011 3:16 pm  

  • Very nice, thanks.

    By Anonymous rental mobil elf, at June 20, 2011 3:48 pm  

  • Hore seems a great character. Though I guess as a hooker named so you've got to learn to dish it out.

    Yes, I think I shall settle in New Zealand.

    By Anonymous Anonymous, at June 20, 2011 4:04 pm  

  • Haha brilliant and spot on. Thanks to the explanation as all I understood from Hore was "blah blah blah". The man's a real farmer haha.

    And I was just thinking, how weird is that Wellington is letting these two go? I mean, Nonu and SBW are the top two NZ centres going to the world cup, and Hore shares his place on the team with Mealamu, top two kiwi hookers if you aske me.

    I think these guys should go to Europe (frankly, the toughest decision to make, which is leaving your all life club is forcely done) and European rugby could only benefit from the class and experience from these two. France or the UK in my opinion. Also they are both in their 30's, way to end your career in the south of France!

    By Anonymous Juggernauter, at June 20, 2011 4:22 pm  

  • For years of loyal service to the team, I can't understand why the Hurricanes let them go so abruptly. What the hell?

    By Anonymous Anonymous, at June 20, 2011 4:35 pm  

  • We hear a lot about the Ozzie humour, but this is great stuff from the Kiwi. Must suck to be treated like Dan Carter, I am sure its not his fault to be treated like the golden boy, made of porcelain.
    And yes, no arms in the tackle. Penalty. Has ALWAYS been a rule - yes even in them olden days when the REAL men used to play whilst chewing tobacco (unflinchingly carrying on with blood gushing out of several battle wounds)

    blah blah...

    By Anonymous Ben Van, at June 20, 2011 5:09 pm  

  • Maybe Nonu wants to play 10 at the World cup?...

    By Anonymous Anonymous, at June 20, 2011 5:45 pm  

  • " yes even in them olden days when the REAL men used to play whilst chewing tobacco (unflinchingly carrying on with blood gushing out of several battle wounds)"

    That's just clssic commentary

    By Anonymous Joost, at June 20, 2011 5:54 pm  

  • Nonu sounds like High Pitch Eric from Howard Stern!

    By Anonymous Beetlejuice, at June 20, 2011 7:05 pm  

  • nonu high voice haha legend

    By Anonymous rosh, at June 20, 2011 7:07 pm  

  • lol that isn't always Nonu's voice, he does what a lot of people do and goes into high pitched voice to exaggerate something.

    The blokes real funny, if you search him on Youtube he's got some interviews up there.

    He doesnt' have a deep voice by any stretch of the imagination though

    By Anonymous Anonymous, at June 20, 2011 7:26 pm  

  • I know the commentator is saying "thumps" but at 0:08 it sounds an awful like he's saying "f*cks his man to the ground." Just saying.

    By Blogger Dr. Chim Richalds, at June 20, 2011 8:09 pm  

  • this is what ma'a is like...



    By Blogger Beatrootz, at June 20, 2011 9:41 pm  

  • Project tyranny you have not only proved you have no idea about the game (it was not a legal tackle) but also proved you know zilch about super rugby.... Rugby has change over the years... Super rugby has followed uit with the law changes however nothing has really changed within super rugby itself... a few more teams added other than that... It's the same old same old....

    By Anonymous Anonymous, at June 20, 2011 10:59 pm  

  • cant believe it hore and nonu not getting a fucking proper send off for thier last game thats bullshit.
    lucky his flock dont mind his mug.

    By Anonymous zacaria, at June 21, 2011 12:01 am  

  • fair tackle.. not fair tackle who cars that is hilarious!!!!

    By Anonymous Anonymous, at June 21, 2011 12:03 am  

  • haha Briliant

    By Anonymous Stag, at June 21, 2011 12:10 am  

  • Beetlejuice -- nice pull on the High Pitch Reference.

    Bababooey to you too

    By Anonymous cheyanqui, at June 21, 2011 12:29 am  

  • Hore seems like a bit of a fool. Maybe if he didn't try so much to be a comedian his team would have offered him a new contract.

    By Anonymous Reality, at June 21, 2011 12:38 am  

  • @Luxi Yeah, I'm sorry. I re watched it now and saw that it is DC getting tackled. For some reason I saw Zac Guilford as Dan Carter.

    By Blogger Akseligloo3, at June 21, 2011 12:46 am  

  • Zacaria,

    I agree. Super Rugby does rugby extremely well, but the crowds more often than not seem to lack intensity (and of the three countries, NZ seems to be the most subdued). I realize some of it comes from the size of the stadiums and whatnot, but come on...this is the same country that knows how to party for sevens tournaments, but the Super Rugby crowds seem a little more low-key.

    Then again, maybe it's just the television not capturing the excited atmosphere properly...I really can't say (since television is the only way I can watch these matches).

    In any case, it would've been nice to see more of a good send off for those guys. To be fair, though, I think Hore may have at least received a (short) standing ovation, didn't he?

    PS - Project Tyranny, no need to put it out there that you're an American. Unlike you, there are plenty of us who both know the rules (this was a fair penalty) and still get a kick out of watching Super Rugby (because it's still goddamn exciting)...don't give us all a bad name.

    By Anonymous el, at June 21, 2011 4:08 am  

  • I love Ma, what a funny guy, looked so innocent and surprised by the refs decision.

    Great poker face, use your arms next time bra!


    By Anonymous Nicko, at June 21, 2011 5:29 am  

  • This kind of thing happens all the time and doesn't get called.
    That's what Hore was saying.
    And he and Nonu are not leaving the Canes by choice, they have been told they won't be offered a new contract. I think it has to do with their relationship with the coach.
    But if anyone goes, based on the team's preformance, the coach should be the one shown the door.
    Corey Jane has said he wants to leave now too.

    By Anonymous Anonymous, at June 21, 2011 6:03 am  

  • the person to to go is the coach no performance from the fool,,,,his the one to go ,now you will more cane's leaving ,,the coach suck!!!!!!!!!

    By Anonymous Anonymous, at June 21, 2011 6:13 am  

  • the person to to go is the coach no performance from the fool,,,,his the one to go ,now you will more cane's leaving ,,the coach suck!!!!!!!!!

    By Anonymous Anonymous, at June 21, 2011 6:13 am  

  • Nonu is a class act

    By Anonymous fitness equipment, at June 21, 2011 10:21 am  

  • Legend

    By Anonymous Anonymous, at June 21, 2011 2:43 pm  

  • el,

    of course nz has been done over with the quakes it would effect everywhere, but as a club part of a tournament trying to show respect for the players dedicating themselves to a team for that long it sends a pretty shit message to all other players on how you could be treated.

    maybe they just weren't pretty enough like carter

    By Anonymous zacaria, at June 22, 2011 12:52 am  

  • Hore just needs to count himself lucky he is a NZ'er himself otherwise im guessing he'd be banned for life!

    By Anonymous Anonymous, at June 22, 2011 3:38 am  

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